now the obama administration, and you said that you have not been entirely unhappy with obama administration for ren policy, but they sort of wore that phrase as a badge of honor, especially during the nato bombardment of libya. is there going to be a remarkable change on that score? should mitt romney become president? >> it's a food question. -- good question. that is part of what i like about governor romney's tone because i think it will push the debate on both side into a place that is more engaged. you're right the obama administration, may not have come up with that term, leading from behind. it seemed to characterize approach in libya which i thought was actually effective through 2011. but here we are in 2012 and we're in a mode of trying to bring forces home, we're nervous about talking about foreign assistance at a time of big federal budget deficits. what governor romney has done i think is make it easier to debate on both sides in terms of what are the next steps we need to take as americans to stay engaged and contribute so that this region doesn't become more turbulent and mor